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ozmodchps
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Nintendo can't detect your modchip, but I have always said that they can detect what you do, online or not.

I do mods, I done one tonight with someone that has just updated their wii to 3.0e.
I put in the wiikey config disc and it detected on the initial screen, but as soon as you click the game it will come up with an error saying

'an error has occurred. press the eject button etc'

I first thought that my config disc was playing up after using it for months. So I burnt a fresh copy....same thing!

My guess is that Nintendo can't detect anything hardware related, but they can detect what the name of the disc is that you put in. The gamecube homebrew of the wiikey config disc would have the same name worldwide.... They have probably realized the popularity of the wiikey and included code in their firmware to detect these discs.

This console has probably now been 'red flagged' and the next time there is an update, it will probably be banned from online services.

If you run the update disc on 2.2e, its fine. Its only the 3.0e firmware that can detect the disc.

I also thought that the firmware could detect if you are playing an international game (i.e. another feature of a modchip) - but then i realized that the wiikey will trick the console into thinking that the disc is PAL anyways.

This is all new, confirmed now on 3 consoles here including mine now.

So if you have updated:
- Don't stick in the wiikey config, or any game from a different region
07/08/2007
Melbourne
ozmodchps
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If you haven't updated to 3.0:
- There is nothing special, please wait it out until there are further developments

Regards Ryan
Ozmodchips.com
07/08/2007
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leeman34
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so what your saying is dont run the chip update ? and you will be fine if you allready have a chip installed your also fine ?
dont install a chip now because you cant update it ?
07/08/2007
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Psyduck
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Cheers.

I read about this just before - good to hear it's nothing major!
07/08/2007
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ozmodchps
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mywiisites said: so what your saying is dont run the chip update ? and you will be fine if you allready have a chip installed your also fine ?
dont install a chip now because you cant update it ?



Running it on 2.2e is fine...running it on 3.0e will produce an error. Which means they know what disc you are putting in.
07/08/2007
Melbourne
kolpol9
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Damn the wiikey disc doesn't work for me
07/08/2007
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phatbass82
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Hmm. That's scary. The only game I have that would trigger this would probably be Super Paper Mario from America. So I shouldn't run it now?
07/08/2007
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jac33au
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Good work nintendo! haha. A bit cheeky dont you think.

Simple. Dont play ntsc games, dont put your wiikey setup disc in yet. wait for wiikey update and someone else to test it first.
07/08/2007
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Psyduck
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jac33au said: Good work nintendo! haha. A bit cheeky dont you think.

Simple. Dont play ntsc games, dont put your wiikey setup disc in yet. wait for wiikey update and someone else to test it first.



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07/08/2007
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ozmodchps
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kolpol9 said: Damn the wiikey disc doesn't work for me



lol, didn't I just tell you not to do that!
07/08/2007
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Psyduck
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ozmodchps said:

kolpol9 said: Damn the wiikey disc doesn't work for me



lol, didn't I just tell you not to do that!



He has a language difficulty!
07/08/2007
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Renesis-C
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Wait, what i don't get is, if the wiikey tricks your wii into thinking your game is a PAL game, why shouldn't you put a NTSC game into the wii yet (after the update)?

And because the 3.0e won't recognise the wiikey config disc, doesn't that mean that people are screwed when the wiikey firmware update comes out? (because I'm guessing it'll be an update from a disc right?)
07/08/2007
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kolpol9
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lol next time i'll read the whole thing...What if i take out the battery?
07/08/2007
Josepi says: making stuff for nazis isnt what I call a good job
hainaku
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wiikey can change the disc label or folder structure so that it would be different from the original wiikey disc.
07/08/2007
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Renesis-C said:
And because the 3.0e won't recognise the wiikey config disc, doesn't that mean that people are screwed when the wiikey firmware update comes out? (because I'm guessing it'll be an update from a disc right?)



What's funny is, that now the WiiKey team will have another excuse to delay their update for another 2 years. Excellent..
07/08/2007
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jac33au
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Renesis-C said: Wait, what i don't get is, if the wiikey tricks your wii into thinking your game is a PAL game, why shouldn't you put a NTSC game into the wii yet (after the update)?

And because the 3.0e won't recognise the wiikey config disc, doesn't that mean that people are screwed when the wiikey firmware update comes out? (because I'm guessing it'll be an update from a disc right?)



Yep right. It just depends on how they detect the disc. Im sure xeno people will fix this but it just means the update for the wiikey(due may 15th) will be delayed further.
07/08/2007
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phatbass82
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Is someone here game to try an NTSC Wii game disc?
07/08/2007
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spyke
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how about if you turn off ur wii b4 its finished updating? i did that n d time feature is up n it says 3.0E?
so modchip users now cannot play ntsc games?
07/08/2007
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jac33au
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spyke said: how about if you turn off ur wii b4 its finished updating? i did that n d time feature is up n it says 3.0E?
so modchip users now cannot play ntsc games?



I think we still can. But i aint gonna try.
07/08/2007
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ozmodchps
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Renesis-C said:And because the 3.0e won't recognise the wiikey config disc, doesn't that mean that people are screwed when the wiikey firmware update comes out? (because I'm guessing it'll be an update from a disc right?)



Nah i think it will be fine because the disc will have a different 'name'
Maybe all GC homebrew doesn't work, i haven't tested.
07/08/2007
Melbourne
phatbass82
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Well, let's just think about this for one minute here. Ozmodchps stated that it can detect possibly the naming convention of the Wiikey boot disc. I don't understand what the NTSC Wii game disc has to do with the Wiikey boot disc, which is ultimately a gamecube boot disc.
07/08/2007
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kolpol9
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Can you test a NTSC game?
07/08/2007
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Renesis-C
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spyke said: how about if you turn off ur wii b4 its finished updating? i did that n d time feature is up n it says 3.0E?
?



Nope, my first update to 2.2e, the bar never reached the end and I was so annoyed that I turned off the console. Turn it back on, turns out the update to 2.2e was already done.

So i'm guessing you're on 3.0E for sure now
07/08/2007
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phatbass82
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ozmodchps said:

Renesis-C said:And because the 3.0e won't recognise the wiikey config disc, doesn't that mean that people are screwed when the wiikey firmware update comes out? (because I'm guessing it'll be an update from a disc right?)



Nah i think it will be fine because the disc will have a different 'name'
Maybe all GC homebrew doesn't work, i haven't tested.



So have you tried an NTSC game disc yet in the "faulted" Wii's?
07/08/2007
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jotendo
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i sorta (actually heaps) regret getting my wii chipped, im scared its gonna die or get screwed and i'll never be able to go online again!!!
*cry*
07/08/2007
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