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karlbane
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“The next wii and xbox updates will make all mod chip consoles obsolete” True or False!!!

I hear a rumor today which I found most troubling. The next patch will render the console useless, in other words turn your console in to a nice door weight.

Remember this is just a rumor I hear. Has anyone else hear this, or better still confirm or disprove this rumor.

Personally I hope this is wrong, I was hoping to import some American games soon.
19/05/2007
Sydney
Guyver
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Looks like Nintendo are putting thier foot down on piracey.
19/05/2007
Resident Evil 4
Sunny Melbourne :p
kolpol9
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hope it doesn't kill mine

19/05/2007
Josepi says: making stuff for nazis isnt what I call a good job
nbo
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hahaha thats why im not taking the chace to do my wii

and and and
its still stupid that its not region free
19/05/2007
I am a walking Screaming hell A thing of torture to behold This vivisection Splits my soul A thing of torture to behold
Omi
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The only thing I have heard that is anywhere close to what you are saying is that you will be banned from XBox live if you're Xbox has been modded. Apparantly, they can detect if it has been modded, you will see an error code and then you will be banned!

I have heard nothing in relation to the Wii though, but I doubt very much if they could update your system so that it was rendered useless if it is modded. Where are the smart people on here to tell us why this won't/can't happen???
19/05/2007
Mario Kart Wii
In the vegie patch
akintolife
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I wouldn't have thought it was legal do something like that as having a chipped system is legal in Australia.
19/05/2007
Brisbane, Queensland
repopulate
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This is the same as PSP. Next upgrade is to annihilate chips and downgrading. Maybe the consoles are fed up? lol
19/05/2007
Omi
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akintolife said: I wouldn't have thought it was legal do something like that as having a chipped system is legal in Australia.



Yeah, I was wondering the same thing. But I guess that they're not making the consoles useless, or harming them in any way (Xbox I mean). I suppose they can do what ever they want with LIVE, it would be their right.
19/05/2007
Mario Kart Wii
In the vegie patch
telljoolz
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Omi said: The only thing I have heard that is anywhere close to what you are saying is that you will be banned from XBox live if you're Xbox has been modded. Apparantly, they can detect if it has been modded, you will see an error code and then you will be banned!

I have heard nothing in relation to the Wii though, but I doubt very much if they could update your system so that it was rendered useless if it is modded. Where are the smart people on here to tell us why this won't/can't happen???




An Xbox update can overwrite the homebrew software (that launches the games) that is installed on a modified xbox. This can potentially render your Xbox useless unless you have a boot disc to reinstall this homebrew software.

Without this homebrew software launcher (called a Dash) the default Microsoft Dash that comes with the update will detect the mod chip and stop normal operation.

** correction
The update will not detect a chip that is in stealth however most modded xboxes have an upgraded hard drive... which the chip detects and then stops normal operation because the console has been tampered with. This is easily fixed with the boot disc with the homebrew dash.



19/05/2007
Brisbane QLD
jac33au
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All ive read is alot of speculation after the big MS screwed some consoles with their update. Ive never read anything that suggest the wii is at risk. These chips are all ment to be run with a stealth setting anyway. Im not worried.

MS can do this cause the chip changes the firmware of the consoles drive, the wii chips do not.
19/05/2007
Wii Fit
Hervey Bay, Queensland
DodgerSSS
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Good.

The more bricked chipped-Wiis, the better.
19/05/2007
Sydney, NSW.
telljoolz
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DodgerSSS said: Good.

The more bricked chipped-Wiis, the better.



Heh. brick yours then. (assuming you got one)
19/05/2007
Brisbane QLD
spyke
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Get your facts straight. Microsoft has banned all consoles with the hacked firmware. They have not bricked the system. Nintendo has done nothing to brick the system. The only situation is where certain games contain a firmware specified for another region. in this case it would brick your system. Nintendo couldnt render peoples wii consoles useless for them perfoming a legal right to insert a modchip which surpasses the region lock on consoles. The most legal thing to do is what microsoft has done... but even then i question microsofts business aspect. 'the argument is, people who pirate games would never buy games in the first place' 'yet why would microsoft ban these people for PAYING to be connected to LIVE? microsoft is effectly getting money out of these people who would never have spent any money whatsoever. theres just one side of the argument. ... I WANT MARIO STRIKERS CHARGED FOOTBALL (they killed the title by adding 'football' pointless additonal to the title]
20/05/2007
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
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smashbro
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how many people here chip their wiis?

20/05/2007
Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Your house.
desi
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I'm thinking of chipping mine later this year. I'm tired of waiting for games, as I've been spoiled by the launch schedule of PC games.
20/05/2007
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wiifool
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Mine ain't chipped (cant afford it) And about that stuff up there i know a fair amount about computing and really firmware shouldnt be a problem unless the chip is linked with main components and launched when the wii is turned on!
The wii chip is launched after a few seconds and i dunno about the connections so !
20/05/2007
Guitar Hero III
Queensland
syndicate
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ok first off they banned people with modded console from xbox live for a few reasons. 1 is they are losing money from games because these people are obviously not buying games. another would be cheating, i guess its potentially possible to get hacks on this way. Microsoft isn't really losing out on subscriptions as these people have already paid up for the month or year. i mean if you've modded your 360 and getting games illegaly then you've already cost them money. this way it will deter people from modding seeing how online is the future of gaming.

and i have heard nothing of the wii ban.
20/05/2007
Melbourne, Victoria
jac33au
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Chips are perfectly legal here in australia. If nintendo intentionally bricked machines here im sure thats illegal. No matter what the law in other places, here in australia where the australian nintendo office is located chips are legal, if they put out an update that breaks our machines they are in big trouble.
Stopping us from playing games online or using online features not so illegal if the servers we get our data from are ofshore.
20/05/2007
Wii Fit
Hervey Bay, Queensland
xracing
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jac33au said: Chips are perfectly legal here in australia. If nintendo intentionally bricked machines here im sure thats illegal. No matter what the law in other places, here in australia where the australian nintendo office is located chips are legal, if they put out an update that breaks our machines they are in big trouble.
Stopping us from playing games online or using online features not so illegal if the servers we get our data from are ofshore.



I 2ND THAT
20/05/2007
Heroes
dsreaper
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lol if you have Wiikey you're fine.
They have stealth mode so they can't be detected, updates can't break them.
...All this was explained in the guide I wrote on the Wiikey...I miss that guide
20/05/2007
Super Mario World
Gold Coast, Queensland
desi
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xracing said:

jac33au said: Chips are perfectly legal here in australia. If nintendo intentionally bricked machines here im sure thats illegal. No matter what the law in other places, here in australia where the australian nintendo office is located chips are legal, if they put out an update that breaks our machines they are in big trouble.
Stopping us from playing games online or using online features not so illegal if the servers we get our data from are ofshore.



I 2ND THAT


Says the guy who keeps bragging about all his pirated games.

Okay. Let's clear this up.

Xbox 360s are being banned from Xbox Live because to get it to run unsigned software, you must update the 360's firmware with custom drivers. Verifying if a console's software has been modified, then, is a simple matter of running an MD5 (or checksum, or whatever function Microsoft likes) on the driver contents.

A WiiKey does not edit Wii firmware.
20/05/2007
I'm in your profile, deleting your spams for Great Justice.
1up
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well,the only reason my console is chipped,is to play region free...
20/05/2007
Either Lismore or the Gold Coast.
ozmodchps
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karlbane said: “The next wii and xbox updates will make all mod chip consoles obsolete” True or False!!!



False x 1000

Dumbest 'rumor' I've heard all month.

Stealth mode on the wiikey means that you can't get a signal back from the modchip at all. Thats why when you insert the config disk it will always say "region override: off", even when you have turned it on.
Now there is always a very very small chance Nintendo could detect the modchip. I guess they could emulate a 'non-licensed' disk and see if the DVD drive reads it.
I high doubt this will happen, and even if it does, we are talking about Nintendo here.

To see the effort Nintendo puts into security, watch this -- www.youtube.com/
20/05/2007
Melbourne
jac33au
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Jesus im not bragging! i have only mentioned paper mario cause someone asked where had got it from. Its actually only the second game i have got in that way, all my other 13 are legal jb or myer bought games i just couldnt wait for it to be released. This is the only forum where people get crap for talking about this. im not pushing it onto anyone to do the same i just wanted to talk about paper mario for **** sake.
20/05/2007
Wii Fit
Hervey Bay, Queensland
Foetoid
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Nintendo have always been the most paranoid of piracy. They stuck with catridges on N64 purely because of piracy. Then they moved to proprietry mini-dvd's on the Cube because of piracy. Now that they have games on DVD disks, sending out an update to brick all chipped Wii's wouldn't surprise me and i would applaud them. More than likely though, if they can detect Wiikey, they might do something more sinister, like shut-down the wireless internet connection the Wii has, that would be excellent. I have always been so heavily againsy piracy that IMO, having a chipped console for any reason is unacceptable. If you want to play a game from another region, do it the old fashioned way....BE PATIENT
21/05/2007
Sunshine Coast
 
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