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smashbro
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hey everyone, i dont know much about computers so i need help choosing a good gaming comupter for the future. ive done a bit of research and ive came accross some good computers but i need more help

1st question: would it be better to get a laptop or desktop?

2nd question: what would the reccomended memory and technical stuff would it have to be

3rd question: is the Dell™ Inspiron™ 530s a good deal? www1.ap.dell.com/ (2nd from the left)

thanks
27/05/2008
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1: Laptop as its portable without having to set up like a pc.

2: Recommended RAM: 1 GB

3: The 530s is good deal but i would look at other brands like compaq also.
27/05/2008
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1. I would reccomend laptop, portable gaming ftw.

2.I reccomend atleast 1GB of 800mhz DDR2 Ram. Also any graphics card over 128mb is great for gaming.

3.Look at some custom building sites, also look at other companies such as HP(Best brand)
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jotendo
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how much are willing to spend?

it all depends on that lol
27/05/2008
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smashbro
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im willing to spend up to about $1500 or less

if you reccomend a computer could you please give me the link? thanks
27/05/2008
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custom built computer ftw.
27/05/2008
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Arolli
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That Dell looks ok for the price (looking at the one for $1799)
22" monitor is a good size and the 500GB hard drive should keep you going for awhile, can't comment on the gfx card as I'm an nvidia person and don't know the ATI models.
What's with people recommending 1GB of RAM? If your getting a gaming pc now to last the next couple of years you want at least 4GB of RAM...
27/05/2008
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I recommend Inspiron 1525. google it.
27/05/2008
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euro2008 said: 1: Laptop as its portable without having to set up like a pc.

2: Recommended RAM: 1 GB

3: The 530s is good deal but i would look at other brands like compaq also.

KidFoX said: 1. I would reccomend laptop, portable gaming ftw.



Sorry, but fail. OP asked for a gaming computer for the future. That's a computer for the rest of the year.

1) Desktop, as it's more readily upgraded and the components are faster and better. It is difficult to get a true cutting edge video card on a laptop, and even harder to upgrade due to size and power consumption limitations. You can also use a larger screen, and even several screens depending on your video card — I'm a dedicated PC gamer and use two screens, one of them a 26" LCD.



2) 2GB minimum. Lots of people say DDR3 is a must. I disagree because the main chokes on a system are either at the video card or the CPU. Get a fast video card (Geforce 8800 with as much memory as you can get, for now) and a fast CPU, and you'll be fine.

3) Dell is never a good deal, and neither are any branded computers. Go to your local computer store, have one built for you. Have them talk you through the parts, let them upsell you if you want — if you buy right your computer won't need upgrading for years. Spend no more than $2000.
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(OMFG ITS DESI!!)

Yeah desktop pc's are easily upgradeable, when laptops are not really.

If your serious about getting a GAMING computer, just stick to what Desi said.
I would custom build it as well, if i were you.
If your a newbie at this, go through a computer store

have a look at Umart online, or Gamedude.
Two aussie sites/stores that are great
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KidFoX said: 1. I would reccomend laptop, portable gaming ftw.

2.I reccomend atleast 1GB of 800mhz DDR2 Ram. Also any graphics card over 128mb is great for gaming.



Did you just recommend a laptop and a graphics card?? Tisk, tisk...

I agree, Dell is never a good deal. But, seeing as you are new to it, maybe Dell is a good starting point. Desi is right, but I think he has a few years up his sleave. Game for a few years then you can build what you want!!
27/05/2008
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Yes go to MSY...
27/05/2008
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Desi:

Dell have good laptops, 800 dollars for 1GB RAM and 160 GB HDD Good Value and i did not fail Desi, its my opinion. 1 GB RAM is enough for games like FIFA, UT3 etc but cant handle bioshock.
27/05/2008
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never buy a laptop for a gaming computer! that is just insane! get a desktop built to your specifications... have an idea or flat know what you want when you go to buy, or go someplace trustworthy and tell them what you want and see what they tell you to get... if you do not know a place you trust, go to a good handfull of computer shops, and ask them what you should get as a gaming computer to do what you want... and then compare notes and see how they add up... then maybe ask here about some of the things that came up different...

the big things are processors (intel or amd) i would suggest AMD... memory, i see alot of people here saying get a gig... that is not a good place to start... a gig for gaming computers is a joke... start with at LEAST 2 gigs of memory, 4 if you can afford it tho is a better bet... the biggest thing for a gaming system is the video card... they change quickly as to what is the 'best', and prices can fluctuate wildly... best bet for a gaming computer is something called SLI... without going into technical jargon, it is just taking two video cards, plugging them into one computer, and they work as one card, just more powerful... this can be a savior or a curse money wise, whereas if you want the best, it will cost double... but you will have a great gaming system!

one other rule of thumb, never ever buy a dell!

hope this helps get you on the path to a nice if not the best gaming computer known to man... good luck in the hunt!





27/05/2008
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gokhan
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Darminator has a point, I don't understand why people keep going on about using a laptop to play games, laptops aren't meant for games, I don't care how many gaming laptops there are.
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awesome information guys! i sort of have an idea of how to choose now but maybe if someone could recommend the specs (i think thats what its called) it should have on the computer that would be helpful

it looks like desi has a lot of experience so i should probably be listening to his ideas lol

thanks
27/05/2008
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I just used my local's online computer builder to customise one of their stock systems. 2GB DDR2 RAM, two overclocked 8800GTX in SLI for 1024MB GPU memory, a Core 2 Duo at 2.66Ghz. Two DVD drives, card reader, awesome sound card, large hard drive. That build is already high end — spending another few hundred on buying a single 1024MB 8800 and getting a faster CPU would make it epic. I didn't specify a Quad Core because it doesn't have enough support, not even at the OS level, to warrant the expense.

It came out at $2061. Reasonable for a pre-assembled computer, though you can save hundreds by sourcing the parts yourself from online shops or computer fairs, and building the computer yourself.

gokhan said: Darminator has a point, I don't understand why people keep going on about using a laptop to play games, laptops aren't meant for games, I don't care how many gaming laptops there are.


It's because many people think that since it can play WoW, it's a gaming platform, not realising that WoW could run on pretty much anything.
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mac ftw ultimate gaming machine they are
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gokhan
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Two questions:
I assume you want to play the latest games right?
What's your budget?

27/05/2008
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1) Desktops are always better for gaming, especially if you plan to run hardcore games. Laptops are unreliable in terms that they cannot be readily upgraded. Also, they lack the needed graphics processing power needed to run good games. Trust me here, I play WoW on my laptop and its horrid. Playing a game at 5-10 fps is not the way you want to enjoy a game.

2) RAM is cheap nowdays, especially if you just plan to buy DDR2. DDR3 is the new standard but not really that mainstream yet, so I recommend DDR2. You should not get less than 2GB. 1GB is just not enough for this day and age. Graphics, something from the nVidia 8 series (8800 GT imo) or an ATI 3870 would suffice for now. CPU, its all up to your personal preference. If I were to recommend something, probably a Q6600 (Intel). Maybe the new range from Intel also (Penryn). Don't really like AMD right now (Phenom kinda failed).

3)I always recommend people build a custom computer because its you have full input in the building process. However, the 530s is not bad. But i still can think you can get a better deal buying your own.

Basically, its all about what you want to run on your computer and then from there you decide what you want. Just my thoughts.
27/05/2008
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I recomend you buy a custom built computer because they are cheaper and have better, more specific scpecs.
Laptops are good ONLY if you need to be on the move, otherwise you can't upgrade them meaning a lot more money spent. Also laptops are more expensive.
2GB min RAM

2.4 dual core min
512MB min graphics card for gaming
500GB Hard drive
THE MOST IMPORTANT PART IS THE MOTHERBOARD WHICH SHOULD BE ABLE TO SUPPORT FUTURE UPGRADES.

I don't recomend you buy DDR3 as it will bump up your costs by heaps where as DDR2 is good while still being VERY cheap

If you want a good guide PC power play just released a magazine with great computers from across australia under $2000

If you do need a laptop i recomend the GX600 from MSI
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gokhan said: Two questions:
I assume you want to play the latest games right?
What's your budget?



two answers right, and under $2000 i guess

btw thanks for the help harkins and sandmonkey
28/05/2008
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Would it be better to get a laptop or desktop?
Desktop. Easier to upgrade and doesn't burn whatever you place it on like my notebook does.



That's my awesome domokun on the bottom left.

What would the reccomended memory and technical stuff would it have to be

If you're going to be running 32bit Windows XP, your computer will only see 3.5GB of RAM if you're lucky, or 3.75GB if you're even more lucky. Windows Vista will be able to use the full 4GB as well as 64bit XP.

I have 4GB installed, but running XP 32bit so doesn't use the whole amount.



You could get a custom built computer that'll last you for the next half a dozen years for under $1400 (excluding monitors, sound system etc.)

Is the Dell™ Inspiron™ 530s a good deal? www1.ap.dell.com/ (2nd from the left)

Try not to buy branded computers at the least. I am not sure about other brands, but with my Dell Dimension from a few years ago, the motherboard was a proprietry board so I couldn't upgrade it, and since that was a fairly old board, the other parts I could upgrade weren't worth it.
28/05/2008
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gokhan said: Yes go to MSY...



X 2


or get ur parts from them and build it yourself if your capable haha
28/05/2008
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