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BlakKnight
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greenbob said:
cura said: are you saying that no title on xbox 360 or ps3 can stand next to, say, a mario game, or a zelda game?
Yes. I am saying that
I - greenbob - state that in my opinion no video game out there is a shadow on the better titles produced by Nintendo - past, present and no doubt future.
The Xbox and Playstation are expensive heaters/paper weights that replace gameplay with graphics.
If I want to see top notch graphics I will watch a movie.
If I want great interactive entertainment I play my Nintendo.



QFT
you are completely right the Wii definitely has the best games!
the PS3 is just a flashy piece of junk with crap games
01/03/2008
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greenbob
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Yes Cura, he was stating his opinion and I was stating mine. Isnt that what a forum is about?

Like you I have also gone months without touching my Nintendo and it wont be until April or May until I do buy another title. Mario Kart and SSBB

And it goes back to what I was saying about the lack of good third party support. You mentioned a few good developers. Where are their wii games?

You can categorise video games as follows:

Great – must buy
Good – tide you over until the next great game
OK – good for fans of the series
Crud – not worth a cent

In my opinion Nintendo offers great games while most of the other wii games are OK or Crud. The wii is missing the good games, which are the ones you mentioned.

The playstation has a library of good games as does the xbox. In my opinion there is not much difference between the two and if you ever became world leader and forced me to buy one of them I will choose the cheaper one.

But I don’t play video games to play good and ok games. Its what Nintendo puts into video games – and have been doing for over 20 years – that other game developers cant match – which makes me choose Nintendo time and time again.

Nintendo have purpose built consoles for their games. They also have the best games not only in my opinion, but also according to the industry and the consumers.
01/03/2008
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greenbob
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When Nintendo released the N64 they released the first 3D platformer. There have been a mountain of 3D platformers since then – Spyro, Croc, Crash Bandicoot to name a few. Not one has come close to Super Mario 64.

The other 3D platformers reek of clones, ‘me too’ and a lack of effort. Sure they measure up to each other and when you have a limited amount on your console some will stand out as the better ones. But none measure up to what Nintendo did on their first attempt of a new genre.

Its not just platform games. Many will argue Zelda is the best RPG. Within the first page of that debate somebody will always point out that Zelda isn’t a real RPG, rather an adventure game. That way they can continue arguing in favour of their turn based spell chanting, stats and inventories.

What’s the best racing game? Is it Mario Kart. But wait! Mario Kart isn’t a ‘real’ racing game. Surely you cant go past Gran Turismo or the like. Yup, nothing beats going around in circles in the most realistic cars with ‘proper’ stats, physics and graphics.

Super Smash Brothers Brawl is going to be a contender for best fighting game. But it isn’t a ‘real’ fighting game. How do you compare it to Street Fighter and all the other 2D and 3D fighters?
01/03/2008
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greenbob
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Nintendo aren’t in the business of BluRay DVD players, top notch graphics, ‘real’ games, accurate stats and the like. They make the best, top quality games that aren’t hindered by deadlines (which is a frustration) or hardware limitations (they make their own console to suit their own games).

That’s not to say other programmers cant make good or even great games. But I think you will find most, if not all of the great games are multiplatform apart from the occasional exclusive sequel or ‘bonus levels and characters’. But they also bring their ‘A’ material to the other platforms so you are not really missing out.

However they are missing on Nintendo’s console (for reasons we disagree on).

So that’s the real issue. Buy a Nintendo and put up with lackluster titles until the next big Nintendo game.

Or buy a playstation/xbox – have enough good games to tide you over but never to experience the games rated the best in the industry.

So wait I will.

I’ve been playing video games for 15 years and breaking into the video game industry is something I aspire to. When I go on my computer and write out my game ideas, character designs (etc…) and formula for what I think will be a great game – see if you can guess which gaming company has the benchmark games I measure my ideas against.
01/03/2008
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Luke4123
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Yes I agree with you greenbob. They are very unique in the sense of motion sensing.
01/03/2008
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cura
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Firt of all, Nintendo's games has been dissapointing to say the least, as I and other people have stated.
For a company who you say emphasizes gameplay and fun, unfortunately I found mario galaxy lacking in both. Pretty sad if that was the only game you were looking foward to in 2007.
I would also say that those categories aren't so clear cut - there are games that go past 'great' and are outstanding. I'd definitely put RE4, oot, mass effect, in the outstanding category.
But certainly not zelda tp, or mario galaxy.
Out of Wii's 2008 lineup, I'd only be interested in mario kart, okami, bwii2, zack and wiki, and, that's all of I can think of. I'd also rank those games as good, not great.

Games I look foward to out of xbox 360's 2008 lineup: splinter cell conviction, fable 2, gears of war 2, mass effect 2 (wishful thinking), rainbow 2 vegas, GTAIV, too human, silent hill 5, Star wars: force unleashed, fall out 3, banjo kazooie 3, and alan wake (hopefully). I'd rank those games as good - outstanding. not to mention there are a lot more good (possibly great) games that I haven't mentioned.

How you can say that most games on 360 or ps3 don't hold a candle to nintendo's games if you haven't played them? (Not that you'll ever pick up an xbox to play bioshock, mass effect or w/e.)
Again, what else would I expect when talking to a Nintendo fan except a whole lot of garbage, lol.

01/03/2008
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BlakKnight
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cura said: Firt of all, Nintendo's games has been dissapointing to say the least, as I and other people have stated.
For a company who you say emphasizes gameplay and fun, unfortunately I found mario galaxy lacking in both. Pretty sad if that was the only game you were looking foward to in 2007.
I would also say that those categories aren't so clear cut - there are games that go past 'great' and are outstanding. I'd definitely put RE4, oot, mass effect, in the outstanding category.
But certainly not zelda tp, or mario galaxy.
Out of Wii's 2008 lineup, I'd only be interested in mario kart, okami, bwii2, zack and wiki, and, that's all of I can think of. I'd also rank those games as good, not great.
Games I look foward to out of xbox 360's 2008 lineup: splinter cell conviction, fable 2, gears of war 2, mass effect 2 (wishful thinking), rainbow 2 vegas, GTAIV, too human, silent hill 5, Star wars: force unleashed, fall out 3, banjo kazooie 3, and alan wake (hopefully). I'd rank those games as good - outstanding. not to mention there are a lot more good (possibly great) games that I haven't mentioned.
Again, what else would I expect when talking to a Nintendo fan except a whole lot of garbage, lol.



Xbox 360 might have good games but PS3 has yet to have an exclusive game that isnt crap
01/03/2008
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Cura, I think you pawn at life.
I agree with everything you say.
You almost convinced me to buy a 360.
But Greenbob has one point, and that is that there are a quite a few common games between 360 and ps3(Although the majority are awesome and Wii owners should all wish for them - GTA4) so that said, I have to choose ps3 simply because of my love for the Gran Turismo series. I might get a 360 when I get more money though.

Wii can burn, I'm sick of trying to argue common sense against sheer fanaticism.

By the way Cura, if you havent got DMC4, go buy it immediately.
04/03/2008
Melbourne, Victoria
 
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