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Wii Hardware \ Is it possible for the Wii's graphics to be upgraded?

joshuacoat
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I've just been watching some trailers on Gamespot and some of the graphics are just amazing on the xbox and ps3. just wondering if it would be possible for the wii to be upgraded some how. theres been talk about a hard drive for the wii. maybe something could improve the quality of the graphics?
11/07/2007
Ulverstone, Tasmania
jubbo83
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i have no idea in the sense of tech specs, but i doubt it. we haven't really seen anything other than GC and PS2 ports - nothing that really shows what the Wii can do. it would be nice to see developers put some effort in the visual side of things. its seems that 3rd parties like factor 5, team ninja and capcom are the only ones to put effort into their titles (ninja gaiden on xbox was awesome). there's others i haven't mentioned but they are the main 3 that keep popping up with quality games. in regards to the wii's piccy power, more than likely we'll see an console upgrade in 5 years - where the graphics side of things will begin to matter.
11/07/2007
central qld
Esoth
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Well supposedly it's more powerful than the ps2 and xbox. And I know I'd be happy with graphics like in FFXII. They're gorgeous.
11/07/2007
Okami
Brisbane
cmpa1970
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no. it's all in programers to make the games look good....
11/07/2007
Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Sydney, NSW
BundyDanger
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Look at the difference in PS2 games over the years... i.e. Res Evil 4 compared with Timesplitters 1, or the latest Burnout compared with Burnout 2... Or hell, GTA:SA over GTA3...

Over time, developers will get more adept at programming for Wii and will learn how to squeeze every last drop out of the system...
11/07/2007
Super Mario Galaxy
Placid Hills, Queensland
trinest
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Wii has the power of twice the gamecube. What we are seeing from Nintendo is GameCube as well as GameCube .5. Other developers are making games Less the GameCube to Gamecube .1
11/07/2007
Disaster: Day of Crisis
Tamworth, New South Wales, Australia
Elraro
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BundyDanger said: Over time, developers will get more adept at programming for Wii and will learn how to squeeze every last drop out of the system...



Hopefully not at the expense of the Wii's processor power. remember, Killzone is one of the PS2's more flashier titles but the damn thing is ssooo slow and lags like crazy.
11/07/2007
Guitar Hero III
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joshuacoat
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FF graphics on PS2 were amazing. but werent they only cut scene graphics?
11/07/2007
Ulverstone, Tasmania
NoRC
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I just want a clearer picture on my projector lol.. 720p i'll be happy with
11/07/2007
Gold Coast
ZOIDBERG
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Id say the Wii would be capable of putting out 720p with a update but this happening is like cmpa1970 selling his Nintendo collection.
11/07/2007
Mario Kart Wii
Planet Earth, New New York
DANisCOOL
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I'm sure they could make some games with better graphics.
11/07/2007
Wisconsin
JackAz
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No. To get graphics like that, you need a whole new system.
The graphics will get better as the years go on - once the programmers use all of what the system has to offer, (See: Gran Turismo 3 vs Gran Turismo 4), though - it will never have enough power to get anywhere close to what the Ps3/360 does, let me explain.

First of all, the processor isn't big enough to handle the power the graphics would generate - thus creating a bottleneck. Also - it has very little GPU memory.

CPU: PowerPC based "Broadway" processor, made with a 90 nm SOI CMOS process, reportedly† clocked at 729 MHz

GPU: ATI "Hollywood" GPU made with a 90 nm CMOS process, reportedly† clocked at 243 MHz

Memory: 3 MiB embedded GPU texture memory and framebuffer.

360?

Custom IBM PowerPC-based CPU
• Three symmetrical cores running at 3.2 GHz each
• Two hardware threads per core; six hardware threads total
• VMX-128 vector unit per core; three total
• 128 VMX-128 registers per hardware thread
• 1 MB L2 cache

CPU Game Math Performance
• 9 billion dot product operations per second

Custom ATI Graphics Processor
• 500MHz processor
• 10 MB of embedded DRAM
• 48-way parallel floating-point dynamically scheduled shader pipelines
• Unified shader architecture
11/07/2007
Victoria
JackAz
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PS3?

CPU: Cell Processor

* PowerPC-base Core @3.2GHz
* 1 VMX vector unit per core
* 512KB L2 cache
* 7 x SPE @3.2GHz
* 7 x 128b 128 SIMD GPRs
* 7 x 256KB SRAM for SPE
* * 1 of 8 SPEs reserved for redundancy total floating point
performance: 218 GFLOPS

GPU: RSX @550MHz

* 1.8 TFLOPS floating point performance
* Full HD (up to 1080p) x 2 channels
* Multi-way programmable parallel floating point shader
pipelines

The Wii doesn't even compete with the XBOX; performance wise.

Intel CPU

* Modified Pentium III
* 733 MHz
* 32-bit integer
* 80-bit floating-point (x87 FPU)
* 64-bit MMX (integer SIMD)
* 128-bit SSE (4x 32-bit precision floating-point SIMD)
* 32KB L1 cache (16KB instruction + 16KB data)
* 128KB L2 cache
* 1980 Dhrystone 2.1 MIPS
* 2.93 GFLOPS (SSE)

NVIDIA XGPU

* 250 MHz
* 4 pixel pipelines
* 2 texels per pixel pipeline
* 8 texels per clock cycle (4 pixels with 2 texels per pixel)
* Maximum of 4 texture layers per rendering pass (done in 2 clock cycles)
* 1.0 gigapixel per second
* 2.0 gigatexels per second
* 4.0 billion anti-aliased samples per second
* Point, Bilinear, Trilinear, Anisotropi
11/07/2007
Victoria
DANisCOOL
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Wow. ok
11/07/2007
Wisconsin
monolocco
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ok Jackaz wins lol all of u hail to Jackaz
11/07/2007
Sydney
Wii-Fan
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bow down to our master bow down....
11/07/2007
Yarra Valley ,Melbourne, Victoria
Harlster
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If it is possible for the wii to get it's graphics upgraded then I'll buy.
11/07/2007
Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Melbourne [city of stuff, wooo!]
Wii-Fan
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no look above!!!!!
11/07/2007
Yarra Valley ,Melbourne, Victoria
ZOIDBERG
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Stupid Post - The Wii puts out at 720p now so thats Hi Def, stop complaining about it not being HiDef!!!
11/07/2007
Mario Kart Wii
Planet Earth, New New York
phatbass82
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It's impossible to upgrade graphics of consoles. The Wii games will look better and better as time goes on. It will never have the grunt power that the 360 or PS3 has for graphics, unless Nintendo brings out some crazy multi-processor successor to Wii...
11/07/2007
Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games
Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia
davidhes
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um what are you talking about zoidberg.... the wii outputs in 480p which is far from 720p and far from hd....
11/07/2007
Canberra
 
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