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I have a philosophical question for everyone...
In a game, is exploiting an in-game glitch cheating?

First we must consider the circumstances of this glitch...
-It was not brought on by entering a code
-It can be any kind of glitch i.e. a levelling trick, invincibility...
-It is an accident in the coding of the game

I know how I feel but I want to know what everyone else feels about this thing that every gamer faces at least once in their life.

*EDIT* After much talk about online games let us pretend it isn't an online game glitch. Let us pretend it is a glitch that will not affect the play of others and only your own playing experience.

01/04/2008

Super Smash Bros. Brawl

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MugaHay says:

Depends if you use it, my view.

01/04/2008

Resident Evil 4

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Rus_A7 says:

Yes. It is.

"-It was not brought on by entering a code "
Many hacks and trainers don't need codes.

"-It can be any kind of glitch i.e. a levelling trick, invincibility..."
So can cheats.

"-It is an accident in the coding of the game "
Many hacks and trainers also take advantage of coding accidents and glitches for their cheats.

01/04/2008

Strong Bad's Cool Game For Attractive People

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MrMorden says:

i remember a glitch in Super Star Wars on SNES - you could get 99 lives by falling off a cliff and going into a cave. You got 3 lives and then you jumped off another cliff to die. when you came back to life you did it all again.

those were the days of continous games with no save points

01/04/2008

The Big Blue Velour Marble

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m00 says:

I don't think it is, it's not our fault they made a mistake in the code, we can just pretend its part of the game then its no longer a glitch

01/04/2008

Metal Slug Anthology

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greenbob says:

Yes and No.

Yes it is cheating because the object of the game is to finish it according to the game's rules. Finding and using a loophole to your advantage is cheating.

No because this is you against the programmer. You have the ability to use all the 'tools' available to finish the game. If they are 'dumb' enough to leave in a glitch, then thats reward for your creativity for finding it. You can use any means available within the game to finish the game - whether intended or not.

So it depends what you want to get out of the game.

01/04/2008

Mario Kart Wii

Diff room to my wii. I can't wii and chat at same time.

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hamzie says:

i know a glitch in ccounter strike 1.6 in the map cs_assualt

u can jump towards the ceiling and tip up magically to the roof..
that is considered cheating

01/04/2008

Mario Kart Wii

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ragin_bull says:

Depends on the glitch and what it does. Heres a case study.

If any of you have played Gunz Online, you'd probably have heard the term K Style.

For those who don't know what Gunz online is gunzonline.com its essentially a Action MMO Third Person Shooter where you can run on walls and slash each other up with Katanas as well as shoot each other. Its a very cool game but on its own it isn't the greatest.

However (as what normally happens) the Hardcore crowd found a few glitches that made Switching weapons quicker and moving faster resulting in some relentless play (k style) as shown here (this is the trailer, good moves but not the best, youtube Gunz Online to see clan comlpilations).

www.youtube.com/

Many believe this is what saved the game and is the main attraction to playing gunz however this wasn't the intentional game play that the creators had in mind.

And the thing is that this style doesn't make you unbeatable (the best players are k stylers, however there are top players that play orthodox, or E style) it just adds another dimension and relentless action to play.

01/04/2008

Resident Evil 4

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ragin_bull says:

In this case, I personally don't think this is a bad thing for it encourages inventive play and adds a flavour not seen in any game I've ever played but many believe its cheating.

The melee cancels thing (L cancels? I'm not familiar because I don't play melee) sounds similar to this.

Generally however, I think that anything that gives an unfair advantage over other players is cheating.

01/04/2008

Resident Evil 4

Gullible isn't a real word.

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bobfossil says:

this happened to me today! i was playing team fortress 2 and these 2 guys got on the roof somehow and we couldnt shoot them no matter what and the whole team was shooting at them

and they just taunted us...

and i felt sad

01/04/2008

Donkey Kong Country

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Silence says:

ragin_bull said:Many believe this is what saved the game and is the main attraction to playing gunz however this wasn't the intentional game play that the creators had in mind.

That's called emergent gameplay. Yes, i did watch GoodGame =] I remember thinking about getting it aaaaggggeeeess ago on my old computer, but i always thought it was an FPS. Might have another look.

01/04/2008

Bully: Scholarship Edition

Want something for nothing? Of course you do! https://mywii.com.au/Post.aspx?id=10311&p=1 Kingsbury, Victoria

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KonkyDong says:

if its just for your own gaming experience i think it isn't cheating. it shows your ingenuity that is if you find out the glitch for yourself but if you found it out on the internet or someone told you then i would consider it cheating

01/04/2008

Guitar Hero III

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mick8569 says:

I think its cheating, whether or not cheating is bad is another totally seperate question

01/04/2008

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goat says:

u no whats funny when ya using cheats and ya find some1 glitching lol
so funny i got so many people kicked coz i could see them in walls and stuff id just turn hax off get a screenshot lol

02/04/2008

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m24ychal says:

i think if you think its cheating than it is.

02/04/2008

Mario Super Sluggers

Why so serious???

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Diabollus says:

Yes... Yes it is.

02/04/2008

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TailsKirby says:

I say no unless you use it or have someone to use it in your favour...

02/04/2008

Super Smash Bros. Brawl

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dsreaper says:

Any glitch or bug that can be exploited to give the player an advantage is cheating.

Having said that, I don't think its wrong in cases like Mugahay's example.
Against other people...omfg hax gtfo n00b!

02/04/2008

Super Mario World

Gold Coast, Queensland

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KaosMaster says:

I thought it is cheating coz the glitch allows you to do something that the game wasn't actually made for... until I read ragin bulls point about Gunz... Now I'm not sure what to think

02/04/2008

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Mudguts says:

It is cheating

02/04/2008

Super Mario Bros. 3

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Robtot says:

Does polygon seam walking count as a glitch? I do that a fair bit in Oblivion

02/04/2008

Wii Fit

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magickstar says:

My vote's for yes aswell! CHEATERS!

02/04/2008

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kennansoft says:

If you ask me this is a though question just because you are really only hurting yourself... I do lean towards it is cheating though...

02/04/2008

Super Smash Bros. Brawl

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Majaba says:

Well, if your playing by yourself then it would be cheating because your exploiting something that gives you an unfair advantage and you don't experience the challenge your supposed to face. However, if your playing with other people and everyone uses the glitch, then I don't think that is cheating because since everyone uses it, no-one has an advantage.
That's my opinion anyway.

02/04/2008

Super Smash Bros. Brawl

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phatbass82 says:

As Mugahay says, it all depends on what it's used for.

My only glitch example I can think of at the moment, would be Call Of Duty 2. The Xbox 360 version was patched up after it was discovered a whole stack of glitches within the Online stages. People were able to hide in the background, and shoot people down without being spotted. This would be a classic case of cheating, I suppose.

When glitching isn't cheating, umm, Call Of Duty 2 again, one of the stages had a glitch where you could camp in a tree. This spot isn't really cheating, because you still could still be seen in the tree. I'm pretty sure that was the only glitch that wasn't patched up. Again, I'm talking about the Xbox 360 version here...lol.

02/04/2008

Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games

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