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Foetoid
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grimace said:
Hm, maybe if I actually compared them I could tell the difference. I just thought movies and tv was 'clear' enough as it is.



The difference is astronimical. Much bigger than the difference between 480i and 480p Wii games. I think the best solution is a 1080p upscaling DVD player with HDMI with a 1080p TV. That way any regular DVD you put in will look almost as good as Blu-Ray anyway and lots of people already have huge dvd collections and you can always get DVDs at videostores!
06/01/2008
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chucky110
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upscaling still doesn't compare to HD and bluray quality
06/01/2008
Ninja Gaiden
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Frodo
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yeah that's true.

I have already over 100 DVD's and i'm not ready to move to HD or Blueray.

What's the point? Doesn't it just make the picture a little bit better or so. I know i might sound a bit ignorant but to me. As long as i can see the picture clear unlike VHS lol Then i'm a happy guy.

06/01/2008
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avt85
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Frodo said: yeah that's true.
I have already over 100 DVD's and i'm not ready to move to HD or Blueray.
What's the point? Doesn't it just make the picture a little bit better or so. I know i might sound a bit ignorant but to me. As long as i can see the picture clear unlike VHS lol Then i'm a happy guy.


if you have a lower resolution tv, yes you might not notice a significant difference between the two. However, with the constant production of bigger and higher resolution tv's (lcd/plasma), to be able to take advantage of the technological benefit these tv's have to offer...you will definitely have to move to blue-ray or hd-dvd. Basically on a 30 inch lcd tv and higher, a normal dvd playback compared to a blu-ray or hd-dvd would be similar to the previous vhs to dvd comparison except with a bigger gap in movie resolution.

I, too have compiled a massive dvd collection (600+) and kinda regretting it with this coming blu-ray/hd-dvd next gen disc.
06/01/2008
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Frodo
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yeah i have a huge LCD and when i watch DVD's on the 360 it's still normal. i guess if i got a HD mayeb i might notice little differences but at the end of the day. I'm just gonna watch the movie and not sit 5cm away from the TV and spot all the detail. you know what i mean?
06/01/2008
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chucky110
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but its like buying a console and a whole lot of games only to have a new console come out like 5 years later and the older games are no longer being made so you need to buy a whole new machine and more games, it's always bound to happen
06/01/2008
Ninja Gaiden
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avt85
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Frodo said: yeah i have a huge LCD and when i watch DVD's on the 360 it's still normal. i guess if i got a HD mayeb i might notice little differences but at the end of the day. I'm just gonna watch the movie and not sit 5cm away from the TV and spot all the detail. you know what i mean?


i get you Frodo, not everyone is as picky as others...I, however, fall in to the very picky category.lol. In the end, it's each to their own preference really.
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cocopop05
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chucky110 said: i don't think blu ray is the better media at all, the pic quality on HD is way better



I am not convinced that there ia a difference between the formats in terms of video quality as both HD DVD and Blu Ray can use MPEG-2 and VC-1 HD codecs. The reason I think Blu Ray is better is because it can hold 25GB per side where HD DVD can hold 15 GB. Uncompressed HD Video takes hundreds of Gigabytes, that is why compression codecs must be used for both formats. The extra space on the Blu Ray media could be used for higher bitrate/higher quality video or it could also be used for more extras. Either way the extra capacity surely gives the advantage to Blu Ray.

I am happy to be proved wrong though should someone wish to enlighten me.
06/01/2008
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Frodo
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why can't they just leave the DVD's alone. i have so many and i'm not just about to throw all of them in the VHS bin you know.

It's Bull****
06/01/2008
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Frodo said: why can't they just leave the DVD's alone. i have so many and i'm not just about to throw all of them in the VHS bin you know.
It's Bull****


lol...Frodo. I understand your pain and I've already learned to accept that fate the moment I heard the launch of the high def discs.
06/01/2008
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chucky110
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well i have both blu ray and Hd and the sound on blu ray is good but i see picture quality is better on HD and the HD is going through component while blu ray is through HDMI
06/01/2008
Ninja Gaiden
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Frodo
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so what everyone is saying that soon enough i will be putting all my DVD's in the bin and getting the HD or Blue ray. right?

That DVD's are the next VHS?
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chucky110
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nah dvds will be around for a while
06/01/2008
Ninja Gaiden
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cocopop05
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chucky110 said: well i have both blu ray and Hd and the sound on blu ray is good but i see picture quality is better on HD and the HD is going through component while blu ray is through HDMI



That is fair enough, I appreciate your feedback.

Though I am surprised that the HDMI connected Blue Ray contect looks worse that component connected HD DVD content. What is the make and model of both players? Maybe the difference is in the hardware? I read that early Panasonic and samsung Blue Ray players were awful. I have also read that PS3 is not bad, but also not great.

06/01/2008
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chucky110
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well the blu ray is ps3 and the HD is the 360 add-on
06/01/2008
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damex95
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chucky110 said: microsoft paid universal and paramount just like sony paid all the other companies
there is nothing wrong with regular dvd's, its ust that HD-DVD and Blu Ray are better



what the? dont think PS3 is in charge of Blu-Ray lol. dont u reckon the blu-ray dvd company would probably offer, not bribe them
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cocopop05
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chucky110 said: well the blu ray is ps3 and the HD is the 360 add-on



I am moving into a new bigger house soon and will be buying a new home cinema setup. I will be buying a 1080p display and also be buying a Blu Ray or HD DVD player, so feedback from someone who does have both formats on a 1080p display is greatly appreciated.

Cheers.


06/01/2008
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damex95
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well ive seen game videos on 1080p on HD. its pretty sweet. graphics are awesome.


but thats just my opinion
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damex95 said: microsoft paid universal and paramount just like sony paid all the other companies

there is nothing wrong with regular dvd's, its ust that HD-DVD and Blu Ray are better

what the? dont think PS3 is in charge of Blu-Ray lol. dont u reckon the blu-ray dvd company would probably offer, not bribe them

yeah, sony being one of the major shareholders in it
06/01/2008
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iaculch
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Guys, sorry to go a bit off topic but how much is the average blue-ray player?
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cocopop05
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I think $500 upwards (street price)
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crazynites
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chucky110 said: i don't think blu ray is the better media at all, the pic quality on HD is way better



Wrong

You may think HD-DVD is better but the fact is there is no difference in picture or sound quality. Theres plenty of articles & news reports to support this I just cant be stuffed googling them to prove it.
06/01/2008
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iaculch
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Is a PS3 worth getting instead of a Blu-ray player. Because I'm thinking, instead of buying a Blu-Ray player I may as well buy a PS3 so then I can watch blu-ray movies and still play awesome games
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chucky110
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crazynites said:

Wrong

You may think HD-DVD is better but the fact is there is no difference in picture or sound quality. Theres plenty of articles & news reports to support this I just cant be stuffed googling them to prove it.

i will admit i'm wrong when someone shows me 100% guarunteed proof

yeah they are worth getting, the ps3 is suppose to one of the best blu ray players on the market
06/01/2008
Ninja Gaiden
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crazynites
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The PS3 is the cheapest Blu-Ray player on the market as far as Im aware but budget players will eventually be on the market just like dvd players did. I have about 10 blu-ray movies now & play them on my PS3 connected by HDMI into my full HD tv & they look awesome. DVD's are also upscaled on the PS3 so theres no real need to replace your DVDs, just buy blu-ray movies you dont have on DVD unless your loaded & can afford it
06/01/2008
Mario Kart Wii
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