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hellspice
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hellspice says:
im wondering on the law as in australia your alowed to put in a wiikey in your wii, so somehow they shouldnt be able to brick it ? but im no legal guru. Any thoughts ?
17/10/2007
Guitar Hero III
ACT
spyke
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spyke says:
Based on Common law - you are allowed to put a modchip which circumventes the region encoding on the console, ie allow one to play games from another region. If the console is region-free no modchip is legal. This is the current position of the law in Australia. [forgot which level of court this was pronounced in]. If it was the high court then its applicable for all of Australia, if it was in supreme then only in that state/territory.

In regards to statute, i have not done my research if the common law has been overridden.
17/10/2007
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Top 25 Brawler in [NSW]
phatbass82
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phatbass82 says:

hellspice said: im wondering on the law as in australia your alowed to put in a wiikey in your wii, so somehow they shouldnt be able to brick it ? but im no legal guru. Any thoughts ?




Well that's the whole argument. You are allowed to install a modchip into any console according to Australian law. As for the actual console companies and what they can do, it's a little grey...

spyke said: Based on Common law - you are allowed to put a modchip which circumventes the region encoding on the console, ie allow one to play games from another region. If the console is region-free no modchip is legal. This is the current position of the law in Australia. [forgot which level of court this was pronounced in]. If it was the high court then its applicable for all of Australia, if it was in supreme then only in that state/territory.

In regards to statute, i have not done my research if the common law has been overridden.



I'm pretty sure that was from the High Courts of Australia, so applies to all of Australia.
17/10/2007
Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games
Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia
jac33au
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jac33au says:
You can only install a modchip to get around region locks. If a console was region free then the chips is illegal. to my understanding anyway. As for nintendo "bricking" your wii i dont think they could get away with it. They can stop you using their online services though.

I didnt realise spyke already posted this. opps.
17/10/2007
Wii Fit
Hervey Bay, Queensland
Foetoid
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Foetoid says:
Nintendo cannot legally brick your Wii since it's a sad loophole in Australian law that legalises Modchips. Modchips are perfectly legal, but more to the point, modding your Wii to play overseas games is perfectly legal. These dodgy chipping companies have found a loophole that allows the to make a chip that allows playing of overseas AND burnt/downloaded games. I would have no problems with chipping the Wii if the chip ONLY bypassed region coding. Intead half the ****** on this site see fit to download the games, robbing developers of thier income and leaving them with less money to make better games in the future. I also have a massive legit DVD collection too. My advice: Don't mod the Wii, buy games legit, and learn a little patience (most kiddies on this site didnt learn that from thier mummys) and wait for a local release.
17/10/2007
Sunshine Coast
JackAz
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JackAz says:
Q: Should I mod my Wii?

A: If you want.
17/10/2007
Victoria
ozmodchps
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ozmodchps says:

Foetoid said: I would have no problems with chipping the Wii if the chip ONLY bypassed region coding.



Really?
How would you configure the modchip to only allow that? You could do it via DVD, how would your DVD read a DVD you burn..?

Thats right, you need a modchip that allow non Nintendo licensed discs to run.

You can't really have one without the other when you need to exploit the same thing to do one of them.
17/10/2007
Melbourne
crazynites
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crazynites says:
I reckon if I was to visit your house Foetoid I would find alot of pirated/downloaded videos or tv shows which is ILLEGAL, your full of it. I have alread read threads where you have mentioned you downloaded tv shows. Then theres mp3 & so on & so on. You carry on like your clean as a whistle.
17/10/2007
Mario Kart Wii
Melbourne, Victoria
tobissmith
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tobissmith says:

link2312 said: yes will they can't detect it nintendo cant block it as of yet and yes i am positive but even if they do find a way to block it there will be a wiikey update to counteract nintendos actions


that's a relief i have a friend who reckons that the wii internet will become unusable after chipping
21/10/2007
Next Door, Melbourne
snoopy888
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snoopy888 says:
i still can use the internet after chipping my wii
21/10/2007
brisbane
leeman34
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leeman34 says:

snoopy888 said: i still can use the internet after chipping my wii

did you try router settings and stuff ?
21/10/2007
Soul Calibur Legends
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iaculch
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iaculch says:
In that new set of conditions that nintendo released, it says somewhere that they have the right to brick your wii UNTIL THE MODCHIP IS REMOVED. Which means that there is a way to recover your console when it is bricked.


22/10/2007
Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Sydney, Enfield
phatbass82
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phatbass82 says:
Guys, if you have just recently chipped your Wii and you have been using the "Everybody Votes" channel, you may need to delete your save file for it as there will be problems with the channel when you go to run it. The main, obvious problem is the time duration till the end of the poll, which usually shows 100days after the Wii has been chipped!
22/10/2007
Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games
Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia
heller
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heller says:
It's not all about paitence Foetoid, just some of us prefer paying only $40 for a new game as opposed to double that (or more) for a local release
22/10/2007
Traralgon, Vic
tenspeed
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tenspeed says:
WIIKEY FTW!
CHIP THAT SHIZ!
I have had no problems since getting mine chipped (except the Everybody Votes glitch, but it's just the Everybody Votes Channel....), If you do it right you will have no problem.
22/10/2007
Guitar Hero III
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espionage
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espionage says:
I was just wondering what risks there are of bricking..

I read that playing NTSC games can brick it. As long as I dont brick my Wii in this way will it be ok?

The sleep mode thing seems pretty safe. I was also wondering if in the past chips have stopped working before? This is the first time I have considered getting a console chipped and I was interested.
22/10/2007
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phatbass82
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phatbass82 says:

espionage said: I was just wondering what risks there are of bricking..

I read that playing NTSC games can brick it. As long as I dont brick my Wii in this way will it be ok?

The sleep mode thing seems pretty safe. I was also wondering if in the past chips have stopped working before? This is the first time I have considered getting a console chipped and I was interested.



Yes, it's ok. Just take the appropriate precautions(wiibrickblocker, etc) when running games that are of NTSC region.

tenspeed said: WIIKEY FTW!
CHIP THAT SHIZ!
I have had no problems since getting mine chipped (except the Everybody Votes glitch, but it's just the Everybody Votes Channel....), If you do it right you will have no problem.



I just deleted the save file and I think the channel and started over again. This is because the battery was removed when installing the chip.
22/10/2007
Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games
Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia
Krush_Em
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Krush_Em says:
In my opinion you are not a true Nintendo supporter if you steal games from Nintendo.
Yes it sucks how we have to wait to get games but if you want to import games either get them from the UK or wait because there wont be new games anymore if more people decide to steal.
Thats just my opinion but each to there own.
24/10/2007
Melbourne, Victoria
Krush_Em
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Krush_Em says:

MugaHay said: Well you are fine to say that with the stealing part, that is your opinion. However what do you say about modding the Wii and buying US games? You don't have to steal if you mod, there are a few NTSC games that work.


I think its ok if you pay full price for a game whatever region it is(which means you have to mod your Wii) but downloading a game you do not own or copying a game that you do not own is a different story.
Its one of those boarderline things.
24/10/2007
Melbourne, Victoria
ozmodchps
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ozmodchps says:

Krush_Em said:
but downloading a game you do not own or copying a game ...

Its one of those boarderline things.



Its not boarderline, its 100% illegal in Australia to backup something you haven't paid for.
24/10/2007
Melbourne
Krush_Em
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Krush_Em says:
Its boaderline as in 1 side of the line it is legal to backup something that you own but on the other side it is illegal to backup something that you do not own.
24/10/2007
Melbourne, Victoria
Siddy
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Siddy says:
You can always take the chip out if nintendo are able to block you via wifi network connection in the future.

My 2cents: If you assume you can download any game any time and months in advance before they are released in australia, try downloading 1 first. They are all 4.2GB, and only a few games are well seeded.
But hiring games and making your own back-ups with the LG dvd is would be good. Hiring also includes returning bought games from EB on a regular basis
26/10/2007
Sydney
iaculch
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iaculch says:
lol that is giving me ideas if i get a wiikey
26/10/2007
Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Sydney, Enfield
harrypmgag
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harrypmgag says:  
I just called some dudes in Bankstown that work and its $50 to clean up and re-install with the mess I made. I would've gone with OzModChips but the thought of Posting my Wii out gave me the Chills. At least with this I can go and see it done in front of me.
26/10/2007
NSW, Sydney, Australia
iaculch
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iaculch says:
Lol did you try to solder yourself???? And the dudes in Bankstown are consoletronics right?
26/10/2007
Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Sydney, Enfield
 
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