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wii4life
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Ok guys as we no well most may remember that in the past i have had allot of troubles with routers/wireless routers. So i was talking to a random guy today about how i couldn't get my computer to hook up to a router. So he said that i should buy a Hub/Switch and that would work better for me instead of a router. So what do you guys thing should i go out and buy my self a Hub/Switch or not?
20/04/2008
Ninja Reflex
Brisbane
jotendo
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I'd just get another router, find a real good one.
Hubs and switches are generally for larger computer networks like an office, rather than a home.

I know im gonna get a hub/switch for massive Lan Party I might be having, and theyre pretty pricey.
20/04/2008
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chucky110
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yep, i did and i love it, i bought one of those joytech boxes and it has one built in, then i connect my wireless router to that just for the psp butr leave the power off unless i use my psp so next door doesn't use my connection
20/04/2008
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wii4life
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jotendo said: I'd just get another router, find a real good one.

Hubs and switches are generally for larger computer networks like an office, rather than a home.

I know im gonna get a hub/switch for massive Lan Party I might be having, and theyre pretty pricey.


Thats it i Got a top of the range one and it F'ed up my computer and my inter net connection. It made me cry
20/04/2008
Ninja Reflex
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jotendo
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wii4life said:Thats it i Got a top of the range one and it F'ed up my computer and my inter net connection. It made me cry



lol
Are you sure you set it up right?
20/04/2008
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meef
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well if youre looking at a lan hub and youre still at high school go ask the it techs if they have any old ones. my mate did this and got one really cheap off them...
20/04/2008
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annirowe
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I hub/switch isnt going to help you! You go and get yourself one of them then your going to have to manually configure your whole network as you no longer going to have access to a DHCP server.. Also whats then going to connect to the net for you.. A switch cant... So your going to open a can of worms from then on....

My advice... work out whats wrong with our router... Either its faulty or probably you just dont know what your doing... Find someone who knows what their doing and get them to set it up for you. A router once set up, rarely should need touching again!
20/04/2008
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wii4life
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annirowe said: I hub/switch isnt going to help you! You go and get yourself one of them then your going to have to manually configure your whole network as you no longer going to have access to a DHCP server.. Also whats then going to connect to the net for you.. A switch cant... So your going to open a can of worms from then on....

My advice... work out whats wrong with our router... Either its faulty or probably you just dont know what your doing... Find someone who knows what their doing and get them to set it up for you. A router once set up, rarely should need touching again!



Well heres the thing I hand my cuz *who is a IT manager* set it up for me and he said that there was no use routers just wont work on my computer unless i do some crazy stuff to it.
20/04/2008
Ninja Reflex
Brisbane
hainaku
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anni is right, a switch/hub won't do anything for you unless it also has routing functions. the switch is more for transmitting between computers from within a subnet. if you put a switch in then most likely you'll still need a router to communicate to your isp via wan.

read this, it tells you exactly why a hub or switch won't work in your situation. you really need a router.

news.softpedia.com/
20/04/2008
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wii4life
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Lol I don't want it to connect Directly to the internet i only want it so i can play my ps3 online thats it nothing more nothing less.
20/04/2008
Ninja Reflex
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hainaku
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wii4life said: Lol I don't want it to connect Directly to the internet i only want it so i can play my ps3 online thats it nothing more nothing less.



what i meant by "internet" is being online. you can't go online with your PS3 via a switch.
20/04/2008
Okami
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Silence
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When i first saw this thread, I though it was for a comparison between AudialHub www.techspansion.com/ and Switch www.nch.com.au/
Haha, I'm having a mac day today.
20/04/2008
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wii4life
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hainaku said: wii4life said: Lol I don't want it to connect Directly to the internet i only want it so i can play my ps3 online thats it nothing more nothing less.

what i meant by "internet" is being online. you can't go online with your PS3 via a switch.



I have been told its possible this guy i no has a switch connected to his ps3 and it works fine with it.
20/04/2008
Ninja Reflex
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wii4life said: I have been told its possible this guy i no has a switch connected to his ps3 and it works fine with it.



i guess you can use a switch if you only have the PS3 itself connected to it, and no other devices.
20/04/2008
Okami
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sunshineGX
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A router is more of a combination of a switch and hub.

You don't have it set up correctly.

IT Managers don't know everything, their subordinates will.

That guy is using a router. A switch nor hub can connect to the internet without a gateway, such as a computer or router that can connect to the internet.

You use a switch to divide a network up.

You use a hub to connect devices into a network.

I am a CCNA.
20/04/2008
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hainaku
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he must the using a router/switch combo. most routers nowadays have built in switching.
20/04/2008
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avt85
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wii4life, you can get a switch to work with your ps3 to connect online provided the switch itself is actually connected to a device that is already connected to the internet (either be a router or a pc). A switch is just a device which allows data packets within a network to be transmitted to numeourous devices accordingly but without a a stand alone a router or a pc routing internet data packets, connecting a ps3 to a switch wont get you online.

As people already mentioned, getting a router is the easiest way to connect to the internet withouthaving to have a pc constantly turned on to access the internet for your ps3. Alot of routers these days come with a 4 port switch built in, saving you alot of time and effort. It is through this you can go ONLINE on any device without needing an additional switch.

Alternatively, you can also set up a pc to handle all DHCP/routing capabilities tothe internet for any devices that needs to go ONLINE, it is then you will need a switch to allow other devices to connect to your pc to gain access.

What model and brand of router do you have?
What seems to be the problem with it?
20/04/2008
Sydney
wii4life
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avt85 said: wii4life, you can get a switch to work with your ps3 to connect online provided the switch itself is actually connected to a device that is already connected to the internet (either be a router or a pc).



That is what i mean.

avt85 said: As people already mentioned, getting a router is the easiest way to connect to the internet withouthaving to have a pc constantly turned on to access the internet for your ps3.


I have no problem with my pc on. Its on almost 24/7 as it is.

Edit i have no router... anymore
20/04/2008
Ninja Reflex
Brisbane
avt85
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Well, if that is the alternative solution you are after...then you will definitely need a switch. You could grab a switch on ebay between $20-$50. If you are not too fussy, you could get a second hand one, like I did for $6, as long as it is able to handle 100MB then all is good. 1GB connectability is recommended but not required.

Be mindful, however, that setting the internet connection on your pc to be shared with other devices with ps3 could get a little complicated. Nothing a bit of googling can't fix.
20/04/2008
Sydney
wii4life
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Yer good old google.

Thank you avt85 for your help.

I would like to leave this thread open to any people that have any suggestion for me so admins Do Not Lock... Please
20/04/2008
Ninja Reflex
Brisbane
avt85
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Just another thing wii4life, before buying yourself a switch...I just remembered something. If your current broandband modem is not using an ethernet port in your pc but rather the usb connection, you might not even have to buy a switch, you can easily use that spare ethernet port on your computer to connect your ps3 into. That is only if your broandband modem is using the USB connection to your pc.

Goodluck and happy hunting.
20/04/2008
Sydney
wii4life
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Lol it is connecting using a usb and i have tried through my broadband modem before but it kept saying DNS error
20/04/2008
Ninja Reflex
Brisbane
avt85
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When you said you've tried with your broadband modem before, do you mean you've tried connecting your ps3 to your computer's ethernet port before?

When you did, did you set up Windows internet sharing capability and tried to bridge the two connections together? Also, did you use a cross-over cable and not your standard patch cable?
20/04/2008
Sydney
wii4life
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mm... I forgot about the internet sharing i may have to try that tomrrow where can i go to find said internet sharing?
20/04/2008
Ninja Reflex
Brisbane
avt85
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Just go to Control Panel>Network Connections>Network Setup Wizard.
Alternatively, Control Panel>Network Setup Wizard.
Either one works, and choose internet sharing.
20/04/2008
Sydney
 
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