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cfc_4_ever
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The Xbox was far better than the PS2, but they had extra time. The same thing will happen btw the 360 and the PS3
15/11/2006
Perth, WA
iddqd
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But when you add up the numbers, the 360 and PS3 are pretty much on par graphics wise. There was a huge difference between the Xbox and PS2 because they were both using waaay different technology, 360 and PS3 are using the same generation of hardware. Really the only thing that separates them is Bluray and people are already doubting how much of an advantage Bluray will have over the 360's DVD because of the PS3's inferior GPU and RAM.
15/11/2006
Knee deep in the dead...
franki3
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iddqd said: But when you add up the numbers, the 360 and PS3 are pretty much on par graphics wise. There was a huge difference between the Xbox and PS2 because they were both using waaay different technology, 360 and PS3 are using the same generation of hardware. Really the only thing that separates them is Bluray and people are already doubting how much of an advantage Bluray will have over the 360's DVD because of the PS3's inferior GPU and RAM.



I think forcing blu-ray upon ps3 buyers was a very bad mistake, one that MS avoided.

15/11/2006
California, Victoria
Deezel
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yeah at least dvd's are still really cheap.. makes the pirating life alot easier on the wallet still
15/11/2006
New south
mereshell
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did somebody say XBOX sucks?
15/11/2006
melbourne, victoria
MelStorm
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Blue ray is good cause of the possibilities it opens up. Motion sensor really isnt really required they could do without it.... but when sony uses the possibilities of the blue ray it could be bad for nintendo
15/11/2006
Melbourne, victoria
Howzat
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MelStorm said: Blue ray is good cause of the possibilities it opens up. Motion sensor really isnt really required they could do without it.... but when sony uses the possibilities of the blue ray it could be bad for nintendo



Really the only possibility is more graphics. But then game development will take forever. It is actually to nintendos advantage that they only take DVD disks. It will easier for smaller game producers to enter the market with a Wii title, that a PS3 title which will be expected to be in 1080p, and have the blue ray disk fairly full. It now depends on how Nintendo treats the 3rd party developers this time around, as their track record ain't that flash.
16/11/2006
Sydney, Australia
MelStorm
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hmmmm maybe your right..... but the thing is there is hype over this blue ray and producers will want to be a part of it... just to enjoy the latest thing.. i guess the same can be said for motion sensor but really theyre all just gimmicks and were all sitting tight for good games at the end of the day.
16/11/2006
Melbourne, victoria
Dr_Bungle
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But wouldn't anyone anywhere waiting for any console be "sitting tight for good games" be it waiting for Altered Beast on the Mega Drive or waiting for Zelda on the Wii.
16/11/2006
Sydney
MelStorm
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Thats what i mean when i say gimmicks dude.... take altered beast for instance great game 16 bit graphics and no motion sensors ...THIS iw what simple fun gaming is all about not a new fancy joystick or some new cd's. This is how the wii can destroy the competition take games back to the simple days and win the crown
16/11/2006
Melbourne, victoria
Dr_Bungle
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This is not directed to anyone in particular but people have been saying that great games will make the Wii the great. Well dah I mean doesn't the console with the best games always win during that generation of consoles? Imo each console should have something different to offer; the 360 has awesome graphics, the first standard wireless controller, beautiful looking games and LIVE; the Wii has revolutionary motion sensor wireless controllers, superb looking game play and the Virtual Console which brings old gamers back into gaming by offering the classics; now the ps3 has...stolen motion sensor, has stolen the joystick, has stolen the rumble feature..the only real thing they are bringing to this generation of gaming is the blue-ray and THEY didn't even develop this they just incorporated it which ok I'll admit will offer the best graphics of this generation but seriously Nintendo and Microsoft are bringing their own styles into the market through their consoles Sony is just bringing a Frankenstein of other peoples ideas into the market (It even looks ugly enough to be him). But Frank was one strong mutha so that's not to say the PS3 wont be a worthy competitor it's just my opinion that Nintendo and Microsoft have more to offer the gaming community in the 360 and the Wii.
16/11/2006
Sydney
cfc_4_ever
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The PS3 has put it together. The PS3 has the name, no matter wot the PS3 will always be atleast number 2. I expect over the next 12-18mnths they will be number 1. Nintendo and Microsoft are fighting it out for number. Dont get me wrong i am NO sony fan or PS fan. I think there crap. But that is the way the cookie crumbles (i luv that saying). Sony will lose market share thoug, but not enough to move to number 2
16/11/2006
Perth, WA
archer07
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Firstly i agree totally with iddqd (except 360 and PS3 being very similar but thats a new debate altogether) buying a console on the back of hype and a cut and paste cube game is stupid. Seeing as the console hasnt been released yet NO ONE knows if the controllers will be good or bad, most of the fanboys just assume they will be revoultionary. There are more warning signs with the wii than there was with the cube, yet for some reason people manage to overlook these problems.
I'm no fanboy either but i think the PS3 will finish on top again because unlike the wii it wont peak at launch its sales will rise at a steady rate all the way through its lifecycle. Even after the next gen is out ps3 will still be selling well just like the ps2 and its software still is.
16/11/2006
The Mushroom Kingdom
qube
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I have to disagree archer. I have seen many polls that put the Wii above the PS3 and 360 in terms of people buying it, especially core gamers which is even better for Nintendo as they're not just aiming for hardcore gamers, here's an example of one: www.joystiq.com/
16/11/2006
Melbourne
archer07
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Like i said qube the wii will peak at launch, and decline into obscurity in a few years. Launch statistics are just a drop in the ocean. Do you think eyetoy, sing star and buzz are aimed at core gamers?? Dont forget SONY is the current leader in the family gaming market. Families buying the ps3 as their blu ray player are much more likely to adopt the ps3 as their "family entertainment console". It wont happen straight away but it will happen.
16/11/2006
The Mushroom Kingdom
Deezel
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Polls are NEVER accurate, PERIOD.
17/11/2006
New south
DoGGpound
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Deezel said: Polls are NEVER accurate, PERIOD.



True. As they say, there are lies, damned lies and bloody statistics.
17/11/2006
Brisbane
Diabollus
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Don't they also say that 83.6% of statistics are made up?
17/11/2006
DoGGpound
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that sounds like a made up statistic to me
17/11/2006
Brisbane
iddqd
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Dr_Bungle said: Well dah I mean doesn't the console with the best games always win during that generation of consoles?



Not necessarily, to me Xbox had the best games, but I'm sure a lot of people here disagree with me. You can't really say that one system has the best games, everyone has different taste. I like my patriotic American FPS's, other people like traditional Japanese RPG's, other people like funny little platformers and adventure games... you get it? There is no good or bad games, just what you like

Dr_Bungle said: the only real thing they are bringing to this generation of gaming is the blue-ray and THEY didn't even develop this they just incorporated it which ok I'll admit will offer the best graphics of this generation



And sorry to pull apart your post like this, but... Bluray means **** when it comes to graphics. The only thing that can determine the graphics is well, the graphics chip. Bluray is just the disk the stuff goes on, it won't make the graphics any better or worse. Oh, and Bluray is 100% Sony! That's why they've got so much to lose if it flops. If Bluray was developed by another company, the PS3 would've been out a year ago!

But I liked your Frankenstein idea, lol 'twas a good way of putting it
17/11/2006
Knee deep in the dead...
Winnie
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I don't have a HD console, so you could say I'm still in the old generation. That being said, I reckon the Wii's graphics are great! The graphics in Zelda are beautiful.
16/12/2006
Melbourne
 
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